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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
		<link>http://vijaysblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/swaraj-india-doesnt-need-anyone/#comment-3114</link>
		<dc:creator>Vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Puneeth: Thanks.

@Sahil: I know that feeling. Keep going.

@santhosh: Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Puneeth: Thanks.</p>
<p>@Sahil: I know that feeling. Keep going.</p>
<p>@santhosh: Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: சந்தோஷ்</title>
		<link>http://vijaysblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/swaraj-india-doesnt-need-anyone/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>சந்தோஷ்</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a very nice and inspiring post.</description>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I moved back 3 years back and heading a product company and its simply amazing! We are competing head-on with companies in the Valley and other places in the U.S. The playground is now open. The show is on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. I moved back 3 years back and heading a product company and its simply amazing! We are competing head-on with companies in the Valley and other places in the U.S. The playground is now open. The show is on.</p>
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		<title>By: Puneeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puneeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prabhu:

I agree with what you say. I also agree that its not going to happen overnight. Also most of the cases you are mentioning are about Internet companies. The internet is possibly the furthest reaching media platform that exists. If we cant effectively leverage that, are we doing something wrong?

About Hiring People:
Lets forego the US for a moment. Look at Europe or even Israel. Even look at Malaysia. I was chatting with the Malaysian Innovation Ministry and they were one step away from breaking into tears that no one joins a startup. The government has gone to the point of giving away free money for big corporates to setup offices in Malaysia and Singapore and its hurting smaller companies.

Even take Israel. There are very few engineers there.

Show me a company where the founders can roll up their sleeves and write code, and still need trouble. I&#039;ll then agree then we have a problem. Most companies want to play manager from day one.

About VCs: VCs will never invest early at a stage where its nothing more than an idea. No way, no how. Things are not going to change. We better learn to live with it and work around it.

Support from Fellow people:
China speaks Chinese. We speak English. That&#039;s a problem. Perhaps its time we start actually understanding some of our pain points and build solutions rather than indianizing existing solutions?
We are not without examples. Look at Shaadi.com. Do you use Shaadi or do you use Match.com? Do you use Yatra/Cleartrip/Make my trip or Expedia.com? Do you use 70mm, or Blockbuster.com?

If there is a &quot;relevant&quot; solution, I don&#039;t see a issue here.

Global Approach: This is one I&#039;d agree whole heartedly. We need a global approach. But there are lessons we need to learn. We can only go fight the giants outside our doorstep, once we have strengthened ourselves. People are going to fiercely guard their turfs and we better use strategies like what Subex did (go everywhere but the US, grow and then hit the US) to survive.

I&#039;d also say that Global users come with global troubles. One that has built a product and attracted beta customers would know this issue. All the feedbacks and bug fix list that will come in, it will be easier to turn around with your initial customers here in India.

We need a blogger community to replace what Techcrunch does, for the Indian community. Pluggd.in, Webyantra, Contentsutra and are all heading on the right direction and if any, Pluggd.in will uniquely position themselves to play the Techcrunch of India. There is also this business blogger network that is going on lately who are working towards building a vibrant blogger community. We should be pitching towards the same goal.

I think I&#039;ve answered it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prabhu:</p>
<p>I agree with what you say. I also agree that its not going to happen overnight. Also most of the cases you are mentioning are about Internet companies. The internet is possibly the furthest reaching media platform that exists. If we cant effectively leverage that, are we doing something wrong?</p>
<p>About Hiring People:<br />
Lets forego the US for a moment. Look at Europe or even Israel. Even look at Malaysia. I was chatting with the Malaysian Innovation Ministry and they were one step away from breaking into tears that no one joins a startup. The government has gone to the point of giving away free money for big corporates to setup offices in Malaysia and Singapore and its hurting smaller companies.</p>
<p>Even take Israel. There are very few engineers there.</p>
<p>Show me a company where the founders can roll up their sleeves and write code, and still need trouble. I&#8217;ll then agree then we have a problem. Most companies want to play manager from day one.</p>
<p>About VCs: VCs will never invest early at a stage where its nothing more than an idea. No way, no how. Things are not going to change. We better learn to live with it and work around it.</p>
<p>Support from Fellow people:<br />
China speaks Chinese. We speak English. That&#8217;s a problem. Perhaps its time we start actually understanding some of our pain points and build solutions rather than indianizing existing solutions?<br />
We are not without examples. Look at Shaadi.com. Do you use Shaadi or do you use Match.com? Do you use Yatra/Cleartrip/Make my trip or Expedia.com? Do you use 70mm, or Blockbuster.com?</p>
<p>If there is a &#8220;relevant&#8221; solution, I don&#8217;t see a issue here.</p>
<p>Global Approach: This is one I&#8217;d agree whole heartedly. We need a global approach. But there are lessons we need to learn. We can only go fight the giants outside our doorstep, once we have strengthened ourselves. People are going to fiercely guard their turfs and we better use strategies like what Subex did (go everywhere but the US, grow and then hit the US) to survive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also say that Global users come with global troubles. One that has built a product and attracted beta customers would know this issue. All the feedbacks and bug fix list that will come in, it will be easier to turn around with your initial customers here in India.</p>
<p>We need a blogger community to replace what Techcrunch does, for the Indian community. Pluggd.in, Webyantra, Contentsutra and are all heading on the right direction and if any, Pluggd.in will uniquely position themselves to play the Techcrunch of India. There is also this business blogger network that is going on lately who are working towards building a vibrant blogger community. We should be pitching towards the same goal.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve answered it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vijay,
This is very thought provocative article. Your experience, knowledge have fueled this. Its indeed a exciting time to stay back in India, contribute to the inclusive growth and be a part of the celebration. Being involved in social sector, I am confident that We will address the challenges surrounding us. With Amazing Talent, Enormous Resources, Strong Values, Bharath will cruise ahead and ahead to the destiny.
Thanks a bunch for sharing your thoughts. I am re-re-reading it :) 

@Shashank
Lets stop finger pointing. Lets pitch in some way or the other to solve the challenges around us. Volunteer for creating civic sense, spread the good word of helping opportunity deprived, Involve in a school for teaching kids... These are small ways where evry one can make a difference...
I am leading a group of 50+ like minded volunteers. We are empowering a rural school http://divyadeepatrust.org near Mysore. From past 2 years, we are able to sustain it and now we are sprinting ahead in all terms. Infrastructure, Corpus Funds, Electricity etc. 

Imagine the whole youth of India spending their 2% of their valuable time, money, effort to contribute for inclusive growth. 

WE, together going to make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vijay,<br />
This is very thought provocative article. Your experience, knowledge have fueled this. Its indeed a exciting time to stay back in India, contribute to the inclusive growth and be a part of the celebration. Being involved in social sector, I am confident that We will address the challenges surrounding us. With Amazing Talent, Enormous Resources, Strong Values, Bharath will cruise ahead and ahead to the destiny.<br />
Thanks a bunch for sharing your thoughts. I am re-re-reading it <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@Shashank<br />
Lets stop finger pointing. Lets pitch in some way or the other to solve the challenges around us. Volunteer for creating civic sense, spread the good word of helping opportunity deprived, Involve in a school for teaching kids&#8230; These are small ways where evry one can make a difference&#8230;<br />
I am leading a group of 50+ like minded volunteers. We are empowering a rural school <a href="http://divyadeepatrust.org" rel="nofollow">http://divyadeepatrust.org</a> near Mysore. From past 2 years, we are able to sustain it and now we are sprinting ahead in all terms. Infrastructure, Corpus Funds, Electricity etc. </p>
<p>Imagine the whole youth of India spending their 2% of their valuable time, money, effort to contribute for inclusive growth. </p>
<p>WE, together going to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Saad Mohammed</title>
		<link>http://vijaysblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/swaraj-india-doesnt-need-anyone/#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>Saad Mohammed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Not getting employees for start up
What I have observed in US is that people take more risk than Indians. They will put almost everything at stake to get the company moving. We Indians traditionally think many times even before taking a loan  for 2- wheeler. More Risk = More Returns/Losses
@ Using Indian Startup products
I agree to what you have said in the post. There is no sufficient coverage. If a US startup sneezes, that will also be covered in TechCrunch.
@ Attitude
I have observed another thing. When u email an Indian startup for giving feedback/comments, you almost never get reply!
@Me too Phenomena-
We like to follow what US has done. I am not saying that is bad. I am yet to see an innovative startup in India which has rocked the blogosphere. How many orkut/myspace/facebook like startups do we have? I have lost count :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Not getting employees for start up<br />
What I have observed in US is that people take more risk than Indians. They will put almost everything at stake to get the company moving. We Indians traditionally think many times even before taking a loan  for 2- wheeler. More Risk = More Returns/Losses<br />
@ Using Indian Startup products<br />
I agree to what you have said in the post. There is no sufficient coverage. If a US startup sneezes, that will also be covered in TechCrunch.<br />
@ Attitude<br />
I have observed another thing. When u email an Indian startup for giving feedback/comments, you almost never get reply!<br />
@Me too Phenomena-<br />
We like to follow what US has done. I am not saying that is bad. I am yet to see an innovative startup in India which has rocked the blogosphere. How many orkut/myspace/facebook like startups do we have? I have lost count <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DNM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.</description>
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		<title>By: Prabhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prabhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts partly based on this one - http://desistartups.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/india-do-need-everyone/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts partly based on this one &#8211; <a href="http://desistartups.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/india-do-need-everyone/" rel="nofollow">http://desistartups.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/india-do-need-everyone/</a></p>
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		<title>By: India *do need* everyone! &#171; Desistartups - Indian Startups Blog &#124; Startup Reviews &#124; Interviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>India *do need* everyone! &#171; Desistartups - Indian Startups Blog &#124; Startup Reviews &#124; Interviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on April 16, 2008. Happened to see this post from The Startup Guy. Some of my thoughts on this. (Of course not to hurt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on April 16, 2008. Happened to see this post from The Startup Guy. Some of my thoughts on this. (Of course not to hurt [...]</p>
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